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مشاهدة ملفه الشخصي
تاريخ التسجيل: 22 - 06 - 2007
العمر: 46
المشاركات: 39
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وهذا نص المحادثة التي تمت داخل كابينة الطائره والإتصالات التي دارت ايضا ً

August 19, 1980
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabian Airlines, 163
Lockheed 1011-200 TriStar
HZ-AHK
The flight experienced fire in the aft cargo compartment 6 minutes after takeoff from Rilyadh. The plane returned to the airport and landed but because of a delay in evacuating the plane, all aboard were killed by smoke and fire. Half a minute before landing the captain decided not to order an emergency evacuation. When he landed, he did not stop immediately but instead proceeded to make a normal landing delaying the fire equipment from putting out the fire. It took a full twenty-three minutes after touchdown before the doors were opened. The failure of the captain to prepare the cabin crew for immediate evacuation upon landing and his failure in not making a maximum stop landing on the runway, with immediate evacuation. All 301 aboard were killed.
CAM-1 = Captain
CAM-2 = First Officer
CAM-3 = Flight Engineer
CAM-4 = Flight Attendant
RDO-2 = Radio transmission by First Officer
PA = Public address system
TMACC = Riyadh Terminal Area Control Center
TWR = Riyadh Tower

18:07:49Takeoff18.14:53CAM((Hostess call signal followed by an alternating tone at 14.54)18.14:58CAM-3"B" aft cargoCAM-1What?18.15:01CAM-3"B" aft cargo18.15:04CAM-2What's going on?18.15:10CAM-3Smoke detection "B" aft cargo18.15:14CAM-1Stop ventilation18.15:16CAM-3Smoke detectionCAM-3Smoke detection "B" aft cargo18.15:20CAM-1In "B" aft cargoCAM-3Yes18.15:32CAM-1Did you turn it to the other one?18.15:37CAM-3Just in "B".CAM-1What?18.15:39CAM-3Not in "A".CAM-3Just in "B".CAM-1Just "B".18.15:42CAM-3Yeah, "A" is okay.CAM-1Okay, so we can go onCAM-3Yes18.15:51CAM-1The ventilation is not working at all in that oneCAM-3YeahCAM((Alternating tone))18.15:55CAM-3There is "A"CAM-1What?CAM-3Now it is "A", both of them18.15:59CAM-1So we got to be returning back right?CAM-3Both "A" and "B" aft cargo smoke detection18.16:06CAM-1So we have smoke there18.16:07CAM-3I would say so, yeah18.16:18CAM-1What's the procedure for it in the checklist?18.16:20CAM-1Yeah I am looking for it now18.17:10CAM-1((Singing in Arabic))18.17:16CAM-1 See that, what's it's name18.17:17CAM-2Abnormal18.17:19CAM-1 No, no checklist abnormal18.18:26CAM-3Both "A" and "B"CAM-3Yeah. Both "A" and "B"CAM-3Shall I test it again and see if it will test?CAM-1Yeah18.18:34CAM-3It doesn't testCAM-1Doesn't test?CAM-3Both offCAM-1So that's actual isn't it?18.18:54CAM-3That would ah --- I would say actual, yeahCAM-1UhCAM-3I would say so, yeah both of them went18.19:00CAM-1We have cleared the situation18.19:17CAM-1There isn't anything about it in the abnormal procedures, huh.18.19:20CAM-3Nothing about it, should I just go back there and see if I can find anything or smell anything?18.19:25CAM-1What?18.19:26CAM-3Shall I go back there and see if I can smell anything?CAM-1Okay, sure.CAM-3YeahCAM((Sound of cockpit door opening))18.19:30CAM-1Have they seen itCAM-3If I can see, smell something I'm think we better go back18.19:35CAM-1Surely check itCAM-3We'll see18.19:40CAM((Sound similar to cockpit door slamming))18.19:41CAM-2 Strange no procedure for itCAM-1No procedure for it?18.19:44CAM-1Tell them we're returning backCAM-2To Riyadh18.19:48CAM-1We are 60 miles out ah ---18.19:58CAM-1We better go, go back to RiyadhCAM-1 Look in the abnormalCAM-1 By the way he's a jackass, in the abnormal it is in the checklist18.20:16CAM-3We've got a fire back thereCAM((Sound similar to door slamming))18.20:18CAM-1We do?CAM-3Yes we doCAM-1It's okay call please18.20:25CAM-1Tell him we're coming back18.20:25TMACCGo ahead18.20:27RDO-218.1-6-3, we're coming back to Riyadh18.20:30CAM-3I would declare an emergencyCAM-1Yeah18.20:33TMACCCleared to reverse course to Riyadh and request reasonCAM-2Declare emergency?18.20:36CAM((Door slams))18.20:37CAM-?Fire, fire in the cabin18.20:37RDO-2Saudia one six three, we've got fire in the cabin and please alert the fire trucksCAM((Noise similar to door slamming))18.20:45TMACCOkay and cleared back and if you'd like to descend, you can descend to any altitude you like18.20:50CAM-1OkayCAM-2I already asked, I already asked18.23:07CAM-3We definitely want18.23:10CAM-3We definitely, we definitely want preference to landCAM-1Huh?18.23:13CAM-3We definitely want preference to land, that's for sureCAM-1Yeah18.23:22CAM-1Pressurization set? ---CAM((cabin announcement - unintelligible))18.23:27CAM-1Okay18.23:32CAM-2No smoking sign onCAM-1Okay, no smoking sign 18.23:36CAM-1Landing preliminary18.23:40CAM-3Okay landing preliminary18.23:41CAM-318.1-42 on the bugCAM-1one forty-two18.23:42CAM-2one forty-twoCAM-3Anti-iceCAM-1Off18.23:50CAM-3HSI headingCAM-1Set18.23:51CAM-3Seatbelt signCAM-1OnCAM-3AhCAM-3Logo lightCAM-1It's okay18.23:55CAM-3Logo lightCAM-1Checked18.23:58CAM-3AltimetersCAM-1Altimeters is gonna be what it isCAM-1It was 1-0-0-2 setting18.24:03CAM-3Okay, and airspeed, groundspeed, airspeed and EPR bugs18.24:16CAM-3Gross weight estimates18.24:16CAM((Sound of alternating tone)) ((Smoke detector aural warning))18.24:21CAM-3What can I say18.24:22CAM-1OkayCAM-3I think it's all right nowCAM-1Okay18.24:25CAM-2one one zeroCAM-3Gross weight airspeed and EPR bugsCAM-1Set and cross checked, one forty two set here two and one five five checkCAM-2One five fiveCAM-3Check18.24:40CAM-1Keep the oxygen to be prepared18.24:41CAM-3((Sound of alternating tone three times simultaneously with above))CAM-3There goes "A"PA # # # #18.24:49CAM-1((Singing in Arabic))18.24:59PA Would passengers please remain seated18.25:04CAM-2Six point eightCAM-1Huh?CAM-2Six point eight on the QNHCAM-2One zero zero six decimal eightCAM-?((Continuous talk by female voice in background))18.25:12CAM-1Okay zero six decimal eight18.25:26CAM-1Okay the throttle in engine number two, it's not returning back --- stuckCAM-3Stuck?18.25:32CAM-1Stuck18.25:36CAM-3I would leave it the way it is, SirCAM((Sound of knocking))CAM-1Huh?CAM-3Just leave it the way it is.18.25:40CAM-1I'm going to shut it down18.25:41CAM-4We tried to, we tried to put it off, at L4 there is a fireCAM-3There's a fire?CAM-4YeahCAM-3Well go put it out18.25:45TMACCOne six three, did you get the message to get us the passengers on board and fuel enduranceCAM-4How18.25:47CAM-3In the ah, --- the fire extinguisherCAM-4I know I said we will do it18.25:50CAM-3There is a fire back thereCAM-1Okay18.25:54CAM((Sound similar to door slamming))18.25:55CAM-1Tell them we have actual fire in the cabin18.25:59RDO-2Riyadh Saudi Arabia one six three, we have an actual fire in the cabin now18.26:07CAM-3Shall I let Jeddah know on HF?CAM-1No18.26:10TMACCSaudi one six three roger, the fire are in the standby position and they are readyCAM-3No?CAM-1Not with our situation18.26:17RDO-2One six three18.26:18PAL4 and R4 get the fire extinguishers from the galley --- ((repeated))18.26:29CAM-3Geez lets go on as fast as we can till we can get to approach18.26:31CAM-1That's it, this is the maximumCAM-3Yeah18.26:34CAM-1Now engine number two is stuck there so something is wrong in it, I'm gonna be shut it down18.26:39CAM((Sound similar to cockpit call chime))18.26:40CAM-3Well not yet, not yet, not yet18.26:42CAM-4There is no way I can go to the back * * after L2 R2 because the people are fighting in the aislesCAM-3Okay find a way if you can18.26:53CAM-4L4 R4 L3 R3 * * open the cabinet and use all your fire extinguishers and the CO218.27:02CAM-3I'll keep your speed up as long as possibleCAM-1OkayCAM-1As soon as possible we're gonna be down18.27:16PA (All passengers remain in your seats, etc.)18.27:21CAM-3And your target speed is one forty oneCAM-1Huh one forty one is set18.27:30CAM-3Here's the bug card18.27:32CAM-1Thank you18.27:39CAM-2Set on mine18.27:40PAPlease, everybody set down, move out of the way, everybody sit down, move out of the aisle, there is no danger from the airplane, everybody should stay in their seatsPA Sit on your seat, sit on your seat, ladies and gentlemen take your seat --- nothing will happen to aircraft, ladies and gentlemen fasten your seatbelt, don't stand like this set on your seats -- sit down, sit down [in Urdu]18.28:03CAM-3Piece of cake, piece of cake18.28:10CAM-3As soon as we land, sir, I suggest that we turn off all fuel valves18.28:14CAM-1OkayCAM-3As soon as we landCAM-1Okay18.28:17CAM-3As soon as we touch downCAM-1Okay18.28:22CAM-1Where is the runway?CAM-1Can you see the runway?18.28:27CAM-2No not yet, not yet18.28:29CAM-2Twenty eight milesCAM-?# # #18.28:40CAM-3Did you tell the fire trucks to go to the back of the airplane as soon as possibleCAM-2YeahCAM-1HuhPA Will all passengers remain seated, will all passengers remain seated, ((Urdu)) --- ladies and gentlemen sit down, sit down (repeated)CAM-1Advise themCAM-1HuhCAM-2Advise them?18.28:50CAM-1 How?18.28:50RDO-2Riyadh one six threeCAM-2Advise them18.28:52TWRGo aheadCAM((Sound of two knocks))CAM-1Yeah, yeah18.28:54RDO-2Please advise fire trucks to be at tail of the airplane after touch, please.18.28:59TWRYes, will do18.29:01CAM-1 Where is the airport, I don't see it?CAM-4Captain there is too much smoke in the backCAM-2 There is the airport road, the yellow lamps are the airport road.CAM-1HuhCAM-2 The yellow lamps are the airport roadCAM-1ThatCAM-2YeahCAM-4# # #CAM-1Are there too much smoke there?18.29:34CAM-3Okay, I am going to test the system again18.29:36CAM((Sound of alternating tone)) ((Smoke detector))18.29:38CAM-3Okay, there's both "A" and "B" loops working again18.29:44CAM-3And no indication of smoke18.29:46CAM-1Huh18.29:47CAM-3No ah indication of smoke, however, the cabin is filled with smoke in the backCAM-1Okay18.29:53CAM-1Now the number two is stuck there the engineCAM-1Okay18.29:56CAM-3I suggest we shut it down on short final18.29:59CAM((Sound of alternating tone))18.29:59CAM-1Yeah, on short final18.30:01CAM-3Okay, there is "A" again18.30:03CAM-3And "A" is going out18.30:20CAM((Sound similar to door movement))18.30:27PA ((Passenger exhorting passengers to sit down))18.30:35CAM-3What is he saying?CAM-2Trying to keep them calm, keep the down18.30:41CAM-1Okay flaps four please18.30:45CAM-1Okay, final to the box18.30:47CAM-2Final to the box please18.30:52CAM((Sound similar to seat movement))18.30:56PAEverybody sit down please, all passengers18.31:00CAM-1Okay flaps ten please, correction, it's okayCAM((Sound of cough))CAM-?*CAM-2 They are the first peopleCAM-1 What?CAM-2 They are the first peopleCAM-1 Who are they?18.31:13CAM-2 They are the people we were talking aboutCAM-1HuhCAM-2They are the people we were talking about18.31:18CAM-1 Where is the airport I don't see itCAM-2 You see those lights over there, that's the stadium18.31:22CAM-2I got the field in sight18.31:25CAM-1I am just trying to intercept this (radial)CAM-2Okay18.31:30CAM-4Shall we evacuate?CAM-1What?18.31:31CAM-4Did you say we should evacuate ---CAM-1OkayCAM-4The passengersCAM-3Say againCAM-4Can we evacuate all the passengers?18.31:34CAM-1Flaps ten pleaseCAM-3When we're on the ground yesCAM-4Okay after we are on the ground yesCAM-2Flaps tenCAM-1Yeah18.31:38CAM-1Final to the box !18.31:40CAM-2Final to the box please18.31:41CAM-3Final to the box 18.31:42CAM-3Okay ignitionCAM-2OnCAM-3No smoking signCAM-2Say again18.31:48CAM-3No smoking signCAM-2On18.31:49CAM-3AltimetersCAM-2Set, cross checkedCAM-3Brake pressureCAM-2Checked18.31:51CAM-3Radio and R NAV selectorCAM-2Check18.31:54CAM-3Okay complete to the box18.31:58CAM-3Okay, right after landing sir do you want me to turn off all fuel valves?18.32:02CAM-1No after we have stopped the aircraftCAM-3Okay18.32:05CAM-1Okay, I'll tell you18.32:10CAM-4Do you want us to evacuate passengers Captain?CAM-1What?CAM-4Do you want us to evacuate the passengers as soon as we stop18.32:16CAM-1Take your positionCAM-4Okay18.32:19CAM-3The area duct overheatCAM((Sound similar to door shutting))CAM-1OkayCAM-1Flaps eighteen please18.32:23CAM-2One eight18.32:25PAFlight attendants please take your positionCAM-4Flight attendants please take your positions18.32:31CAM-2Got runway in sight?18.32:33RDO-2Riyadh, one six three, we got the runway in sight, are we cleared to land?CAM-1Oh yeah, I see itPAPlease take your positions18.32:36TMACCAffirmative, you are number one cleared for approach and you can continue tower one eighteen one18.32:42RDO-2Eighteen one, one six three18.32:44RDO-2Riyadh, Saudia one six three ten miles final runway in sight, cleared to land?CAM-4All of you sit down18.32:48TWROne six three cleared to land, wind three two zero at five18.32:48CAM-1Okay I'm shuttingPA Fasten seatbelts all of you sit down [in Urdu]18.32:52CAM-1Okay, I'm shutting down engine number twoCAM-1It's stuck, present EPR18.32:53RDO-2One six three, cleared to land, confirm you have alerted the fire trucksCAM-3OkayCAM-1OkayCAM-3Okay18.32:58TWRAffirmative, they are ready18.32:59CAM-1Okay, it is coming down18.33:01RDO-2 Thank youCAM-3All rightCAM-1Okay18.33:06CAM-2Flaps in eighteen18.33:08CAM-3I'll keep our speed up as much as possibleCAM-1Okay, flaps twenty twoCAM-2Flaps twenty twoCAM-4Give me your attention please, be seated ladies and gentlemen, we are about to land there's no reason to panic18.33:22CAM-3I'll give you a hundred and fifty down, okayCAM-1What?18.22:23CAM-3A hundred and fifty on downCAM-1Yeah sure18.33:29PAWe're about to land ladies and gentlemen place your hands behind your head for impact, girls demonstrate impact position, girls demonstrate impact position18.33:31CAM-1Gear down pleaseCAM-2Gear is coming down18.33:35CAM-3Okay, you can go one ninetyCAM-1Good18.33:40CAM-1There is no, any procedure for the two engine, it's the same as threeCAM-2OkayCAM-3Yeah18.33:45CAM-1I just want to confirm it, I know it God damn it18.33:52CAM-1Tell him that engine number two is should be shut down --- it's stuck18.33:57CAM-2Okay18.33:58CAM-1Tell the towerCAM-2Yeah18.34:00CAM-1Yeah, we just have engine number one18.34:02RDO-2Tower Saudia one six three18.34:04PAThe girls have demonstrated impact position, please go down half a minute before touhdown, it's half a minute before touchdown, hands behind your head18.34:06TWRGo ahead one six three, wind three two zero at fiveCAM-1Number one and number three18.34:10RDO-2One six three is cleared to land, we have engine number two shut down, we have only one and three18.34:17TWRCopied todayPAEverybody, please sit down, everything's under control, we are landing back at Riyadh, please it down and fasten your seatbelts, sit down and fasten your seatbelts, pleaseCAM-1Okay18.34:20RDO-2Okay18.34:25CAM-1Complete the final checklistCAM-2Complete, flaps18.34:26CAM-3Okay, your altimeters are one zero zero seven, set and cross checked three ways, gear and anti-skid is down and checked and your flaps are at thir- twenty two18.34:39CAM-1Yeah, I know it18.34:44CAM-3Both loops "A" and "B" are outCAM-1Thank you18.34:53PA Ladies and gentlemen, no need to panic, place your hands behind your head for impact position [Urdu]18.35:06CAM-3Aft cargo door is opened sir18.35:11CAM-1CheckCAM-3No problemPANow ladies and gentlemen, may I ask you to please put your hands behind your heads for the impact position18.35:56CAM-3Looking good18.35:57CAM-1Tell them, tell them to not evacuate18.36:01PAPut your hand behind your head and head between your knees, hands behind your headCAM((Sound similar to door opening))18.36:07CAM-3No need for that, we are okay, no problem, no problem18.36:12GPWSMinimum --- minimum18.36:12CAM-1One hundredCAM-3One hundred18.36:15CAM((Loud squeal begins and continues until end of CVR tape))18.36:18CAM-3Fifty18.36:19CAM-3Forty18.36:21CAM-3Thirty18.36:22CAM((Loud squeal)) ((End of CVR tape))18.36:30approximate time of landing
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